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Monday 23 January 2023

The BSA B31 that time forgot. Part 16. These are the facts m'lord as I see 'um

23/01/23 Hear ye...Hear ye! Gather round for here's a BSA parts supply tale. A tale of 'What did ya expect?...What did ya get?...and the frustrations of an old skool engineer living in a modern world...an 'It'll do world'  ''let's do the minimum effort to earn Big Mc vouchers......maybe enough spondulix to buy a Costa Coffee wi' artistic sprinkles imaging what looks like 3 x monkeys arses.... 

Ahhh....apart from being at the mercy of Internet Dick Turpins I've found mi' self at the receiving end of some Government bad press this week. Yes! Taken it personally. The very government that has an ex chancellor evading paying his tax share.. ta tune of several millions..Ain't the news brilliant!! So, how come ya Old Uncle Alb fell onto the wrong side of goodness? I'll tell ya.....It won't have escaped ya attention that over the year of 2022 UK inflation went sky high..banging the door of 11%...why?? (Hey....I've lived thru far worse ya set of wooooooosers!..cut ya cloth by binnin' ya I'phone for a start, followed by Netflix) According to government bullshit news-bites it's the fault of those that don't work. Aye...Mi'self and apparantly all the others like me are causing this inflation bollocks.  Fact- Becoming a full time Vintafaker meant something had to give...I gave up being an employee to be a stalwart in the fight to save old shiite from the crusher...at my expense....yep!! self funded...surely m'lord that's a good thing??? Didn't realise likkle old me was pivotal to the uk economy. Oh...and unlike that tosser ex-chancellor Nadhim Zahawi (Mr "careless and not a deliberate mistake") which is where I came in...Careless, greedy....and anything but trying tha' best.....Easy route...One day my friends there will be more than a worm turning.

Back to the 'quality thing'. Not gonna throw about aspersions on the internetty. Just facts.  Heavy going on the grey cells?  Could be but I think most day's ya gotta put ya'sen into zones that work the grey cells..!!! Don't tell me ya' don't????  I'd ordered 4 x BSA cylinder head hold down bolts. Part No 66-0115 from a very well known UK supplier. Opting for the steel version rather than stainless after reading on-line that stainless may not have the correct properties for the job....Expansion rates etc..These were priced at £12.82 + V.A.T. each + Post. (Cost me £61.54 all in) Comparing with stainless at same supplier at £15.40 + V.A.T. each + Post or alternatively on Ebay from different supplier £112 + £4 Post per set of 4 stainless (claimed correct grade)..Hey, I didn't go for the low cost option I thought these were more fit for purpose.

 

Problem discovered whilst doing the Blu-tac worm ....(read previous blog for a quick catch up) the bolts wouldn't screw into the crankcase...Got the feeling that winding in with a spanner would damage the casting threads, thus spoiling what has survived for 65 years so far. STOP!!!!! was the general consensus among those that witnessed the event. Let's think, take a step back and do it right!! I must add that the 'original' BSA bolts screw into the threads lovely, which ever hole any were placed. Oh. m'lord mustn't forget the old bolts fit the front wheel spindle nut lovely too. (same thread size)  Not so the new version (too large again)

1st step on arriving back at 'The Old Sidevalve Bar' was to measure the thread external dia with a micrometer. Then compare with the original BSA part. I'm measuring in pre-brexit millimeters.....after 50 years of anti-imperialism it will be hard to swap back to post brexit inches, furlongs, farthings and sixpenn'orth worth.

 New hold down bolt - 17.42mm     convert to old skool and thats 0.685"

 Old hold down bolt - 17.20mm  convert to old skool and thats 0.6772"

Reference the reading to a thread chart and see what's adrift. Thread size - 11/16  20 TPI. BSC. Major thread size 0.6875"

Oh, the new are nearer to the required diameter than the old.....Strange and stranger...Surely the old guys at BSA in the '50s could read a micrometer. Well, in for a penny in for a pound as the saying goes. Gonna invest in a die and run it down the threads. As you can imagine dies to match rarely used 'Cycle threads' are not easily come by. Once again I'm not getting involved in second best..Carbon Steel is a  no... High Speed Steel only. Not direct from India or China either, sourced from a proper tool supplier not ebay. Sharp intact of breath whilst purchasing...£48!!!! Anyway tools are for life so it doesn't count.

The die was run down the new bolt threads..Hey, what do we have here. 'SWARF' !!!!! The die is shaving part of the thread. Ah ha! knew it!!! Please note m'lord that the die was held in the wrench by the centre fixing screw only so as not to reduce it's pre-set diameter.

Guess what...after a shave the bolts screwed into the crankcase as if they'd been manufactured at 'Small Heath'....

That's banged the cost of believing to buy the best into a different league...yes, could have gone for correct grade stainless and been no worse off.  steel -£61 + £48 repair = £109.  Blingy stainless all in £112.

Phuffffff. There's more to this cutting threads malarkey than meets the eye so it's just my story draw ya own conclusion.




                                      


 


Saturday 7 January 2023

The BSA B31 that time forgot. Part 16. Don't forget ta double check the worm

 07/01/2023. Happy New Year all you 'Vintafake Appreciating Peoples'. V.A.P.s (Note -No mention of gender, but that's more by good luck than good wokey....Talking like 'it is' aint gonna change in the Shireshireshire so future Vintafake news bulletins may bring quivery lips to those arriving here by mistake) Anyways, Albert's here and ready for another year in 'The Old Sidevalve Bar' Why not? It's a wonderful cozy place...Same cobwebs hanging from the roof as last year and same projects on the workbench.. Yipeeeee..let's rock!

News in the big world? It's got to the point where if there's nothing good to say don't say anything...Even a Wokey would punch a politician in the eye these days given the chance..or even give that whinging Harry a kick in his frostbitten bollocks....F.F.S... Ya' couldn't mak' it up...a royal wi a frozen knob!!!!!!!

So, have I mentioned before about the new piston set up in Lovely Maroon?.('The BSA B31 that time forgot..) Only slighty due to the fact that the original piston was totally shot and mainly due to me thinking what a fun thing to do, the bore has been increased to accept a Triumph Bonneville piston. Not my idea, it's a popular mod for those with only 350cc of  BSA power under their seat. An increase of 50cc to a big boy 400cc is gonna make all that difference and certainly give something to chat about down at the 'coffee shop' (Not a bloody Costa barista bullshite coffee shop that added sprinkles on the frothy tops and charges 4 x Quid for the privilage ....thinking more a formica table, leatherette buttoned seat jobbie wi chipped mugs and if ya lucky a chocolate digestive on the side. "That'll be 2 and a tanner chuck!" Think 'Greasy Spoon transport' from the 60's and you've got the picture. Makes ya think...Imagine 'Lovely Maroon' suddenly waking up after her 50 year sleep and hearing George Bloody Ezra on the radio....Phufffff. That would be cruel. Will make a point of having some background Bill Haley gently caressing the ear lobes as I push down on the kick start lever for the first firing.

 
 A Maroon BSA... just because..

 Anyway.back to the piston story... A compression reducing plate is apparently needed to stop valves touching piston after the above mod. This is placed under the barrel. Recommended thickness of the aforementioned plate varies.(As always, it's a case of wadding through all the internet chaff to find the true version. I've gone middle wicket after reading various posts. My plate is 1.5mm. Skimmed it down from 6mm. (1.5mm currently out of stock in Government store room.)That was a task on the Myford I must admit. Ended up supergluing it to the backing plate to hold firm after it flew out of 4 x jaw a couple of times... narrowly missing your Uncle Albert in the process. Called a Glue Chuck if you engineers want to find out more. Worked a treat, removing after wasn't easy, (used a hot gun and gentle levering)

 
First attempt in the 4 x jaw
 
 
 'Chatter'
 
Creating the 'Glue Chuck'
 
 
Every day's a Skool Day - It worked!
 
Hot Gun and Builders Trowel - Winning Prizing Combo
 

So, the rebore is done, ....time to test if the compression plate gives the required clearance. I know a chap with some blu-tac and that's the very substance that is needed as a guide to what is happening inside the engine when the piston goes up and downy and the valves open and closey.
Just so happens that the owner of the Blu-tac is an experienced engine tuner, particulary Methanol burning big singles with wild cam timings and high compression..Purely built for no other purpose but to attack Speed Hill-climb records. Let's get over there...double quick sharpish, get the BSA engine on the bench and see if it get's the all clear from the Grand Master.
 
A room with a view - 1950's Fordson Major
 
You will maybe have noticed on the above picture...(unless you're a vintage tractor buff looking elsewhere) the wiggly worm of blu-tac expertly laid across the piston top.. Next step, bolt the head on, set the valve clearances and wind the motor carefully through 360 degrees. 
Winding report - No resistance felt as piston transfered through top dead centre on firing stroke. Oh yes!...Double check now by lifting head and inspect for deformation of the Wiggly Blu-tac worm. "The worm is intact, long live the worm" 
That's it then, the test suggests I have at least a worm clearance running the Standard Cams that are currently fitted. Compression ratio ? Somewhere between 'not much' and 'a tiny bit'..
 
As a matter of interest guess what piston/valve clearance a Methanol burning Hill Climb Special would have? How does 8 thou sound? Bloody hell....that's only 2 x fag papers .... or a very thin Wiggly worm if measuring in eurovision..
 
Posh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get tha's kettle on...I've got a reet thirst for a Tetley...(Aye, Tetley Tea bag..white wi nah sugar.) 


 
 
Images acknowledgement....because anyone appreciating Maroon BSA's and more importantly willing to dress in leather and ride them is ok by me..
Photos -imagefactory-studio.com
Italian Leather - Gin Salemó